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前面的都不重要,拉到最底下看最后一句话即可

ಥ_ಥ我什么话都说不出来啦……

一品亂炖:

虐…………虐得話都說不出口了TVT


不過這段真的是啊,仔細重溫的時候眼睛都濕了,尤其是後面看到Bucky還對皮爹討好似的一樣說“But I knew him”的時候,那個勉強做出來的完全不是笑容的笑容簡直是會心一擊!


小细:



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汤上有一段关于吧唧回忆杀的分析,可能有过度阐释的嫌疑,但里面有个观点我挺支持,就是吧唧的残肢也许还被留在金属臂里,没有被完全截掉。我挑出与分析有关的主体部分翻译了一下,原文详见→source: http://likeappletrees.tumblr.com/post/88622099250/msbeeinmybonnet-so-with-my-very-belated


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The scene starts with Bucky stripped to the waist so an engineer can work on repairing his arm. They’re inside a bank valve and from what I can count there are three scientists present and at least three armed guards. People cleverer than I am have gone into detail about the Winter Soldier’s vulnerability here, so I’ll focus on something else. Namely the arm.

这一幕开头是bucky的衣服被褪到了腰际,以便那些工程师修复他的手臂。他们在一个银行地下室里,从能够看到的来算,在场的一共有三位科学家和至少三位武装保镖。已经有比我更聪明的小伙伴细致入微地讨论了冬兵在这一幕的无助性,所以我想谈些别的,也就是他的手臂。





Do you see that off-colour thing peeking through the wires? I do. I think that’s the Winter Soldier’s biological arm. There is supporting evidence later on for this theory, but may I just take a moment to scream in horror? Thank you. Because that is his arm. I know that in the comics his metal arm is attached to his (reinforced) spine to handle the weight and power. I can’t say if it’s the same in the MCU, but it seems that at the very least the metal arm has been grafted into his biological arm and shoulder. I… really don’t want to imagine the specifics.

看见藏匿在接线里的那个颜色不均匀/不显色的(off-colour)的东西了吗?我看见了。我觉得那是冬兵自己真正的手臂。接下来我会拿出证据来支持这个论点,但能不能容我先抽出时间来惊恐地尖叫出声?谢谢各位。因为那就是他的手臂。我知道在漫画里,金属臂被接在他(加固过的)脊柱上,以便更好地承重和掌控力量,我不能断定在电影设定里是否也是这样,但从表面上看,这个金属臂至少是被嫁接进了他的肉体手臂与肩膀里。我……我真的不愿意去想象其中的细节。


[Zola: Sergeant Barnes.]




And now we come to the muddled flashback. It starts with Zola’s freakish smile with a snowy backdrop. This split second tells us many things, but I think the most important part is what the Winter Soldier remembers Zola saying - Sergeant Barnes. It is also immediately after he remembers this that he jerks in his chair and throws his head to the side. I don’t have any doubt that Steve’s soft Bucky? has been echoing inside the Winter Soldier’s head this whole time, finally knocking loose another memory of a different name. Another name for him. Which leads to a similar memory also involving a name.

现在我们来看那段混沌不清的记忆闪回。起先是Zola那诡异的笑容与冰天雪地的背景。这几秒钟没头没尾的记忆碎片可以告诉我们很多事实,而我认为其中最重要的一点,就是冬兵记得Zola说——barnes中士。正是在他记起这个之后,他猛地从躺椅上坐起来,把头偏向一侧。我一点都不怀疑Steve那句轻柔的"Bucky?"一直萦绕在冬兵的脑海里,并最终撬动了关于另一个名字的不同记忆,他的另一个名字。这段熟悉的记忆也涉及一个名字。

 


[Steve: Bucky! No!]


[muffled scream] 
I have already gone into detail about this before (and lilinternetwarrior added some really great thoughts on it) but I want to emphasise that what triggered this memory was the previous one of Zola calling him Sergeant Barnes. I have a few theories on why he remembered Zola before Steve, but I think the most plausible one is that the memory of Zola happened after his traumatic fall, so it was easier for his brain to access than the one of Steve which happened just before. If you ask me, the Winter Soldier’s brain first remembered Zola’s Sergeant Barnes but didn’t feel it quite fit, and then dug up Steve’s Bucky! which felt a lot more Right.

我想要强调的是,之前zola喊他barnes中士的那段记忆,又触发了他的这段记忆。关于他为什么在回想起steve之前首先回想起Zola,我有好几个设想,但其中看起来最合理的一个是,关于Zola的记忆紧跟在他创伤性的坠落之后,所以相较于发生于Zola之前的有关Steve的记忆,他的大脑更易于首先处理距目前更近的事情。

Next up on our traumatic tour of the Winter Soldier’s fractured memories is this part, which is so shock-full of information I barely know where to begin. But let’s start with that mysterious soldier. I have it on good authority, thanks to my lovely followers, that the uniform is indeed Soviet and probably an officer’s. (Reference picture.) This raises an interesting question, since in the MCU, the Winter Soldier is a HYDRA creation rather than a Soviet one. The Soviet Union under Stalin was also notoriously paranoid so infiltration would probably not be plausible. What I can see is two different possibilities. The first is that HYDRA managed to turn some Soviet soldiers into informants, as a first step in the new and more duplicitous direction they’re taking in the future. Secondly, HYDRA agents swooped in a moment later and killed the Soviet soldiers to recapture Bucky.

下面我们来看冬兵断裂记忆的这一部分,信息量太大了,我简直不知道从哪说起。我们先从那个神秘的士兵开始。感谢我可爱的粉丝们,我可以有把握地说,那个士兵身上的制服的确是苏联制式的,并且很有可能是军官级别的。这就引出了一个有趣的问题,因为按照电影设定,冬兵是九头蛇的产物而不是前苏联的,斯大林领导下的苏联是出了名的偏执狂,所以应该没那么容易被九头蛇渗透。我认为有两种不同的可能性:第一,九头蛇设法将部分苏联士兵转成自己的线人,以此作为他们迈向未来的两面派路线的第一步;第二,九头蛇成员突然出现,杀死了那个苏联士兵,然后抢走Bucky。


Of course, it might just have been a quick shout-out to comics canon that is not meant to be analyzed this deeply.

当然了,这也可能只是对于原作的一个简单快速的致敬,不必拿来深入分析。

Let us now leave the poor soldier alone and instead focus on the remains of Bucky’s torn-off arm. It is a horrific image, the way the stump leaves a thick trail of blood in its wake. It leads you to wonder how Bucky hasn’t bled out yet at this point, but the hint is in the voiceover. The procedure has already started. Whatever experiments Zola had Bucky submitted to, they clearly were somewhat successful. Because HYDRA were trying to recreate the Super Soldier Serum and the cocktail they gave Bucky made him not only survive the fall but also the loss of his arm.

抛开那位可怜的士兵不看,我们现在把重点放到冬兵那条残存的手臂上。剩下那截断肢被拖在地上,留下一条浓重的血迹。那甚至让人感到疑惑,Bucky居然在这时候还没有失血过多而死,而线索就在画外音里,“改造已经开始了”。不管Zola把Bucky拿去做了什么实验,某种程度上来说,他们的尝试显然是成功的,因为九头蛇一直以来都在努力重造超级士兵血清,所以他们给Bucky施用的药物不仅让他在坠落中存活下来,也让他得以不在失去手臂的情况下丧生。

Maybe the Winter Soldier was always their intention.

The amputation sequence is an orgy in medical horror. Please note that since the Winter Soldier remembers this, it means he was awake during the procedure. They were amputating his arm properly while he was awake. No wonder we hear his muffled sound of pain. Here is also the supporting evidence I mentioned earlier. They amputate the arm with quite a bit of stump, about exactly the same length as what we see a hint of within the metal arm. Considering the scarring surrounding the socket, I can only pray that Bucky was unconscious during the grafting.

也许他们早就想创造出冬兵了。
截肢手术的发生顺序(此处存疑,原文用词是sequence)是医学怪谈的一场狂欢。请留意,既然冬兵回想起了这些,就意味着手术过程中他是神智清醒的。那些人在他醒着的时候对他的残臂进行截肢。难怪我们会听到他模糊不清的痛苦呻吟。这就是我之前提到的证据,他们进行手术时还留下了他的残肢,与我们之前在他金属臂里看到的暗示性的东西拥有差不多相同的长度。想想看金属臂与肩膀咬合处的那些可怕的伤疤,我只能祈祷Bucky在这场嫁接手术里是没有意识的。




I am still reeling from the medical horror so I am having trouble seeing clearly, but if I take a moment to calm down I can focus on the Winter Soldier’s face. Again we’re cut away from the flashback because it got so intense, and look at his expression. Look closely. Even if it’s not HD quality, we can see the fear and confusion morphing into anger. It makes the following memory very interesting.

我被刚才那段医学恐怖片般的剧情给虐得路都走不稳了,所以我不太看得清楚画面,我得试着冷静下来,看看冬兵的脸。镜头把我们从记忆闪回里切开了,因为它变得太激烈、太紧张了,现在来看看他的表情,仔细看。即使这不是高清版,我们也能看到那种恐惧与困惑变成了怒意。这使接下来的记忆变得相当有趣。







[mechanical whirring]


Zola: You will be the new fist of HYDRA.
the scientist haven’t even finished explaining the arm to Bucky and already he uses it to attack him. Even strapped down, weak and in an unfamiliar place, Bucky doesn’t hesitate for even a second before fighting back. That is an amazing show of mental strength. Of course, all he gets for his troubles is a hypodermic full of sedatives stabbed into his chest.

科学家还没跟Bucky解释完金属臂,Bucky已经用它来攻击他了。即使被绑在躺椅上,虚弱并且身处陌生之地,Bucky仍然没有丝毫犹豫地发出了反抗。这体现出了他惊人的意志力。当然,他能得来的只有一个插进他胸膛的镇定剂注射器。







Zola: Put him on ice.


[ice freezing]
Oh god. Oh god. Is there anyone here who doesn’t cry over this part? I don’t think there is anything left to say that hasn’t already been said, so I will leave this part of the flashback before it breaks me completely. 

天哪。天哪。还有谁看这段的时候没哭出来?我觉得我已经把能说的都说完了,我只能跳过这段记忆闪回,否则它要把我虐出内伤了。





Considering the other two memories that upset the Winter Soldier enough to lash out, I don’t think there’s any wonder why the memory of his first cryo-freeze caused him to attack the engineer. It was an instinctive reaction, as we can see from how he keeps himself entirely still afterwards. He is stuck with all these confusing memories and the emotions associated with them, his head is probably pounding as it frantically tries to repair itself, and we can see in the last gif how he slowly shuts down to enter that semi-catatonic state we see him in later.

之前两段记忆已经足以让冬兵感到愤怒并作出强烈反应了,所以第一次(原po认为是第一次,我觉得不一定)被冰冻的闪回画面把他激怒到了出手攻击工程师的程度,我觉得一点都不奇怪。那是种本能反应,我们能看到他后来一直努力克制,保持冷静不动。他被困在这些令人疑惑不安的记忆和与之相关的情绪里,他的大脑很可能因为急切地想要修复自身而被剧烈冲撞着,我们能在最后一张动图里看到他缓缓强迫自己停止反应,进入一种半神经紧张的状态。

I think everything in this movie is pain, but this part is especially so. Therefore I will leave you with these words:
This avalanche of memories returned to the Winter Soldier after only a couple of days out of cryo and one word from Steve. Remember that.

我觉得这整部片子都是虐虐虐,这部分尤其虐。所以我留给你们最后这句简短的事实:
冬兵脱离冰冻才几天,这些记忆就雪崩一般地冲回了他,仅仅因为Steve的一句话、一个单词而已。记住这个。






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